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of education, bill bennett. he also served to john mccain. all of these t-bill regularly on fox news sunday in the fox news channel. i actually met ellen 1981 when he was a very young assistant professor at the university of pennsylvania. it's been great to see all the things he's accomplished since that time. so the question i would like to pose for each of you, and i'll start with governor huntsman. what does the 2012 election reveal about the respective leadership styles of obama and romney? >> probably not much. >> okay, what this panel -- >> see you later. >> you can extrapolate a few things from president obama's first term that might be instructive. he isn't a manager. he doesn't have a history of managing things, so you bring in a bout of good, well-trained, smart people, given their tasks and he tried to lead a government. in the case of governor romney, who has been a governor, who is a business guy, he has run the olympics. i think his attitude would be efficiency. i'm going to come in and looking a government like a business, which sometimes is not the right answer because gover
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